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A detail from Marcel Dzama's coloring book, titled Coloring the Moon Pink, dated 2020.

Coloring the Moon Pink

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Marcel Dzama: Coloring the Moon Pink

Diana Thater and Rachel Rose

Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

 on two cities, Venice and Rome—each a work of art, both a monument to the past—and on how love and loss shape places and spaces.

“There's a feeling, for me, of at-homeness in Rome,’’ Zarin says, “and the idea of a part of my life occurring there that I really am at a loss to explain. I am enamored. You never can really tell why you fall in love with a person, can you? You can say lots of things, but it's all completely meaningless. For me, it's the same feeling about Rome.”

View of the Grand Canal looking toward the Punta della Dogana from Campo Sant’Ivo

, second third of the eighteenth century (detail). Pinacoteca di Brera

The best way to approach Venice from the airport is to take the water taxi. It is also the most expensive. Like most things in Venice, there are convolutions before the payoff. There is no transport between the airport proper and the boat dock where the water taxis come in. You pull or carry your luggage down a long pathway, a distance of perhaps a quarter of a mile, following signs put up to encourage the traveler. This is the last direct route in Venice, the last walk on which not to get lost.

Read excerpts from “Serene’’ and “Roma’’, chapters in the forthcoming book 

You can also listen to the author reading the excerpts at the bottom of this page.



In this conversation, Zarin speaks about Venice and Rome in a celebration of Italy as the country begins to loosen the longest coronavirus-related lockdown in Europe. The episode features evocative readings from 

, which captures the meditative yet constantly surprising nature of travel from a deeply personal point of view.

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, late 1720s. Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York
Canaletto, 

View of the Arch of Constantine with the Colosseum

Cynthia Zarin

To Venice and Rome

Artists Diana Thater, a leading pioneer of video and installation and major figure in the L.A. art community since the early 1990s, and Rachel Rose, a significant new voice of the medium, discuss the rapid evolution of video art and its limitless possibilities—including, for both of them, its ability to reckon with personal trauma and threats to the environment.

Image: Diana Thater, 

A photograph of Marcel Dzama's studio, dated 2020.

Marcel Dzama: Pink Moon

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On the occasion of his online-only exhibition, 

, Marcel Dzama has published a coloring book featuring a series of new drawings.



 was made in collaboration with the artist’s son during quarantine, and acknowledges the families who are having to discover new ways to balance work, school, and life while isolated at home together. Dzama’s book features imagery from his exhibition, including a new 

, as well as a vision of his son swimming in a pool in Mexico, and mashups of beloved fairy tales such as 

, a collection of eight intimate letters written to a teenage Balthus between 1920 and 1926.

Read Jarrett Earnest's interviews with Holland Cotter, Darby English, and Siri Hustvedt, published in 

What It Means to Write About Art, Interviews with Art Critics

, a catalogue of photographs by Roy DeCarava, and watch a video introducing the artist's life and work.

, the most comprehensive collection of the artist’s writings assembled to date.

Everything She Touched: The Life of Ruth Asawa

, published this year by Chronicle Books.

, and listen to a podcast with the author.

Joan Mitchell: I carry my landscapes around with me.

Read James Baldwin's introduction to the exhibition catalogue for 

 by Emma Enderby, an essay in the publication accompanying Oscar Murillo's major exhibition at Haus der Kunst in 2017.

, c. 1525 (detail). The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York


“Live for a while in these books.’’

Excerpts from David Zwirner Books

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